Topic: Conflitto Ucraina-Russia

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Temo i 18…

[Asher]

Palle cubiche! È un segnale importante.

[Shape]

TFP Link :: https://www.internazionale.it/opinione/pierre-haski/2022/09/13/russia-crepe-disfatta

TFP Link :: https://www.open.online/2022/09/12/ucraina-russia-tv-esperti-lite-video/

[Gaissel]

Sempre dal liveblog del Guardian:

Ukrainian officials said there was a torture chamber set up by the Russian military in now liberated Balaklia. Serhiy Bolvinov, head of the Kharkiv Region National Police Investigation Department, said that 40 people had been detained during the occupation.

The BBC has reported some graphic accounts of torture from local residents:

Artem, who lives in the city of Balakliya in the Kharkiv province told the BBC he was held by Russians for more than 40 days, and was tortured with electrocution. The epicentre of the brutality was the city’s police station, which Russian forces used as their headquarters.

Artem said he could hear screams of pain and terror coming from other cells.

The occupiers made sure the cries could be heard, he said, by turning off the building’s noisy ventilation system.

“They turned it off so everyone could hear how people scream when they are shocked with electricity,” he told us. “They did this to some of the prisoners every other day... They even did this to the women”.

And they did it to Artem, though in his case only once.

“They made me hold two wires,” he said.

“There was an electric generator. The faster it went, the higher the voltage. They said, ‘if you let it go, you are finished’. Then they started asking questions. They said I was lying, and they started spinning it even more and the voltage increased.”

Artem told us he was detained because the Russians found a picture of his brother, a soldier, in uniform. Another man from Balakliya was held for 25 days because he had the Ukrainian flag, Artem said.

A school principal called Tatiana told us she was held in the police station for three days and also heard screams from other cells.

We visited the police station, and saw the Lord’s Prayer scratched on the wall of one of the cramped cells, alongside markings to indicate how many days had passed.

Ukrainian police officers say as many as eight men were held in cells intended for two people. They say locals were scared to even pass the station when the Russians were in charge, in case they were grabbed by Russian soldiers.

[Andrea_23]

Price Cap
MIA

C'erano dubbi?

[rule_z]

Più o meno gli stessi sulle possibilità dell’Ucraina di non soccombere alla Russia.

Comunque con i rubinetti Russi chiusi il price cap mette più di qualche dubbio, la cosa importante sarebbe slegare il prezzo dell’elettricità da quello del gas.

[J VR]

Più o meno gli stessi sulle possibilità dell’Ucraina di non soccombere alla Russia.

Io invece voglio cominciare a sognare e spero che ce la facciano.
Il Donbass no, quello i Russi faranno di tutto per tenerselo, ormai è una questione di principio e di leadership.
Poi vai a sapere...finché si combatte con armi canoniche tutto è possibile.

[rule_z]

Ah ma pure io son convinto che l'Ucraina possa uscirne molto meglio della Russia da questa guerra.

[Cryu]

Sbagliato topic perché sono boomer.

[rule_z]

TFP Link :: https://www.politico.eu/article/putin-admits-china-has-questions-and-concerns-about-ukraine-war/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS_Syndication

[atchoo]

TFP Link :: https://www.ilpost.it/2022/09/16/papa-francesco-guerra-ucraina/

[peppebi]

Anche Giovanni Paolo II lo disse a suo tempo per la guerra in Serbia. In sostanza restare neutrali senza aiutare era peggio che mandare armamenti e combattere.

[Andrea_23]

TFP Link :: https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1570830266805133313?t=JHOfz8DfmMVwjj3QsmBYoQ&s=19

[BombAtomicA]

Già stanno apparendo quelli che dicono che "eh, ma come è possibile, hanno preso la città da pochi giorni e già hanno riesumato 400 persone, è impossibile, non c'era il tempo di farlo". Oppure "sono gli ucraini che hanno ucciso e seppellito i loro traditori". Ah, e il sempreverde "un'altra sceneggiata come Bucha".

Senza parole.

[Andrea_23]

Beh se gli ucraini l'hanno fatto e la passano liscia, complimenti : D.

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